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	<title>Comments on: PC032: Senator Bilbo</title>
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	<description>PodCastle is the world's first audio fantasy magazine. Weekly, we broadcast the best in fantasy short stories, running the gammut from heart-pounding sword and sorcery, to strange surrealist tales, to gritty urban fantasy, to the psychological depth of magical realism. Our podcast features authors including Peter Beagle, Benjamin Rosenbaum, Jim C. Hines, and Cat Rambo, among others.</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 01:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Saruman castle &#124; Myneighborhocleaning</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-3334</link>
		<dc:creator>Saruman castle &#124; Myneighborhocleaning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2011 16:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PodCastle &#187; PC032: Senator BilboHow about a story where Saruman attempts to bring the green revolution and advanced technology to the shire and is turned on by short sighted and ungratefull halflings&#8230; or um.. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Geeks Guide to the Galaxy interviews JFB</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-3327</link>
		<dc:creator>Geeks Guide to the Galaxy interviews JFB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lord of the Rings, sympathetic monsters and Senator Bilbo (Podcastle Episode 32, featuring Senator Bilbo by Andy [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Fix &#124; From the Podosphere: November 2008</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1798</link>
		<dc:creator>The Fix &#124; From the Podosphere: November 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first of PodCastle&#8217;s stories for November is Andy Duncan&#8217;s “Senator Bilbo.” Within a setting remarkably like Tolkien&#8217;s Shire, an overblown, self-aggrandizing local [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first of PodCastle&#8217;s stories for November is Andy Duncan&#8217;s “Senator Bilbo.” Within a setting remarkably like Tolkien&#8217;s Shire, an overblown, self-aggrandizing local [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ogion The Ski-napper</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1734</link>
		<dc:creator>Ogion The Ski-napper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a pointless story. "Let's create a completely one-dimensional, hateful, bigoted, corrupt demagogue and then write a story about how terrible a person he is."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a pointless story. &#8220;Let&#8217;s create a completely one-dimensional, hateful, bigoted, corrupt demagogue and then write a story about how terrible a person he is.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Blaine Boy</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1690</link>
		<dc:creator>Blaine Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, my comment is now completely redundant, but what the hell: Anyone else think that maybe Mr. Duncan is trying to suggest something? If only he could be a little bit more direct with his message. :P Okay, so it was a bit direct, but I think it was appropriate especially for this day and age and all that jazz. "Anvillicious." Sounds like a new type of word to describe a food that is nutritious, delicious, and contains all your daily required iron. :p  I thought it was a great story, but it's one of those stories where you hear it once (cause that's as many times as you need to read it to get the message) and you say "Okay, that's enough of that. Let's read something zany and funky and weird and fun." Or at least, that's what *I* say to myself.

Keep 'em coming.

Sincerely yours,
The Blaine Boy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, my comment is now completely redundant, but what the hell: Anyone else think that maybe Mr. Duncan is trying to suggest something? If only he could be a little bit more direct with his message. <img src='http://podcastle.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> Okay, so it was a bit direct, but I think it was appropriate especially for this day and age and all that jazz. &#8220;Anvillicious.&#8221; Sounds like a new type of word to describe a food that is nutritious, delicious, and contains all your daily required iron. :p  I thought it was a great story, but it&#8217;s one of those stories where you hear it once (cause that&#8217;s as many times as you need to read it to get the message) and you say &#8220;Okay, that&#8217;s enough of that. Let&#8217;s read something zany and funky and weird and fun.&#8221; Or at least, that&#8217;s what *I* say to myself.</p>
<p>Keep &#8216;em coming.</p>
<p>Sincerely yours,<br />
The Blaine Boy</p>
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		<title>By: Dave (aka Nev the Deranged)</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1683</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave (aka Nev the Deranged)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank Key was the right narrator for this story. He isn't for every story, but for the recent one's he's done (this and Grand Guignol) he was well suited and well chosen by the editorship.

The story was amusing, and it was fun seeing Tolkien's well-worn world turned upside down in a new way, far more interesting than most of  the countless pastiches that have drawn from it over the years. 

If it had been the original Bilbo (Baggins) himself, I might have taken issue with the "perversion" of Tolkien's characters, but this was clearly set in a later time with different characters- although for a moment I thought the wizard was going to be an irate Gandalf.

The nitpicky geek in me wants to mention that, at least as far as I recall, there were a finite number of wizards in Middle Earth, who were not humans who learned magic, but rather Istari, angelic beings who had taken human form in order to help guide the fate of Middle Earth. More diligent Tolkien enthusiasts can correct me if I'm mistaken about that.

All in all, a good story, well read. Looking forward to the next one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Key was the right narrator for this story. He isn&#8217;t for every story, but for the recent one&#8217;s he&#8217;s done (this and Grand Guignol) he was well suited and well chosen by the editorship.</p>
<p>The story was amusing, and it was fun seeing Tolkien&#8217;s well-worn world turned upside down in a new way, far more interesting than most of  the countless pastiches that have drawn from it over the years. </p>
<p>If it had been the original Bilbo (Baggins) himself, I might have taken issue with the &#8220;perversion&#8221; of Tolkien&#8217;s characters, but this was clearly set in a later time with different characters- although for a moment I thought the wizard was going to be an irate Gandalf.</p>
<p>The nitpicky geek in me wants to mention that, at least as far as I recall, there were a finite number of wizards in Middle Earth, who were not humans who learned magic, but rather Istari, angelic beings who had taken human form in order to help guide the fate of Middle Earth. More diligent Tolkien enthusiasts can correct me if I&#8217;m mistaken about that.</p>
<p>All in all, a good story, well read. Looking forward to the next one.</p>
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		<title>By: ilyanassa</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1675</link>
		<dc:creator>ilyanassa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel bad, because I'm only driven to comment when I hate the story - but I hated this story. I think the LOTR world is fair game, but this story was heavy-handed, boring, and trite, without plot except Racism Bad, mmmkay? Tolkien certainly had his problems with race, but this wasn't an especially enlightening or entertaining way to explore them. HIGHLY anvilicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel bad, because I&#8217;m only driven to comment when I hate the story - but I hated this story. I think the LOTR world is fair game, but this story was heavy-handed, boring, and trite, without plot except Racism Bad, mmmkay? Tolkien certainly had his problems with race, but this wasn&#8217;t an especially enlightening or entertaining way to explore them. HIGHLY anvilicious.</p>
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		<title>By: loren</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1672</link>
		<dc:creator>loren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 05:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
Long time lurker, first time poster. I really did enjoy this story, narration and all. I understand and respect Tolkien’s influence on the fantasy genre, but I don't think that his contributions, no matter how impressive, warrant that we cast a magical sacrosanct spell over his work, people have been creating derivatives of his worlds for years, it's refreshing to see some one dispose of all pretense and take on middle earth directly. It's an interesting question, racial determinism in the world of fantasy and I was glad to see it touched on in this story. For an interesting post on the topic (and other fantasy tropes) see: http://scifimedia.blogspot.com/2006/09/fantasy-cliches-and-why-i-want-to-kill.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Long time lurker, first time poster. I really did enjoy this story, narration and all. I understand and respect Tolkien’s influence on the fantasy genre, but I don&#8217;t think that his contributions, no matter how impressive, warrant that we cast a magical sacrosanct spell over his work, people have been creating derivatives of his worlds for years, it&#8217;s refreshing to see some one dispose of all pretense and take on middle earth directly. It&#8217;s an interesting question, racial determinism in the world of fantasy and I was glad to see it touched on in this story. For an interesting post on the topic (and other fantasy tropes) see: <a href="http://scifimedia.blogspot.com/2006/09/fantasy-cliches-and-why-i-want-to-kill.html" rel="nofollow">http://scifimedia.blogspot.com/2006/09/fantasy-cliches-and-why-i-want-to-kill.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: TDW</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1670</link>
		<dc:creator>TDW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting take on the events after the war, but then it just cuts off.  Rather annoying ending as it felt like the whole premise to the story was to lead you up to a cheap joke. This needs a sequel or adleast a longer ending.  
btw gay trolls ftw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting take on the events after the war, but then it just cuts off.  Rather annoying ending as it felt like the whole premise to the story was to lead you up to a cheap joke. This needs a sequel or adleast a longer ending.<br />
btw gay trolls ftw</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1669</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone else think escapeartist stories have been getting far more &lt;a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Anvilicious" rel="nofollow"&gt;anvilicious&lt;/a&gt; lately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone else think escapeartist stories have been getting far more <a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Anvilicious" rel="nofollow">anvilicious</a> lately?</p>
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		<title>By: scatterbrain</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1661</link>
		<dc:creator>scatterbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry. That should be "There might be some kind of god afterall…"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry. That should be &#8220;There might be some kind of god afterall…&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: scatterbrain</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1650</link>
		<dc:creator>scatterbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Frank Key read--Andy Duncan written story? So soon? It's, it's, it's almost too good to be true! There be some kind of god afterall...

Damn Tory/Republican hobbits and their hulking gay troll skinhead bodyguards; they're everywhere these days!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Frank Key read&#8211;Andy Duncan written story? So soon? It&#8217;s, it&#8217;s, it&#8217;s almost too good to be true! There be some kind of god afterall&#8230;</p>
<p>Damn Tory/Republican hobbits and their hulking gay troll skinhead bodyguards; they&#8217;re everywhere these days!</p>
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		<title>By: Reverend Loki</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1645</link>
		<dc:creator>Reverend Loki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't think that the choice of narrator would be one of the big points of issue in the first 7 comments here.  I personally enjoyed the narration, and thought he was a particularly good choice to narrate this story.  So, as far as Frank Key goes, mark me in the "for"category. 

As for the story, I found it nice, if a bit heavy handed.  I understand that, in the restrictive frame of the short story some elements of longer form story telling by necessity must be given less precedence, but it's almost as if Subtlety and Nuance were taken out behind the shed and beaten in the writing of this one.  Still, it was a decent enough story.

I must ask, though - did this story seem to end way to abruptly for anyone else?  Almost like an arbitrary stopping point, a boundary if you will, was decided upon, and any and all words beyond were declared "foreign" and forbidden from settling on this story's soils.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think that the choice of narrator would be one of the big points of issue in the first 7 comments here.  I personally enjoyed the narration, and thought he was a particularly good choice to narrate this story.  So, as far as Frank Key goes, mark me in the &#8220;for&#8221;category. </p>
<p>As for the story, I found it nice, if a bit heavy handed.  I understand that, in the restrictive frame of the short story some elements of longer form story telling by necessity must be given less precedence, but it&#8217;s almost as if Subtlety and Nuance were taken out behind the shed and beaten in the writing of this one.  Still, it was a decent enough story.</p>
<p>I must ask, though - did this story seem to end way to abruptly for anyone else?  Almost like an arbitrary stopping point, a boundary if you will, was decided upon, and any and all words beyond were declared &#8220;foreign&#8221; and forbidden from settling on this story&#8217;s soils.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Weber</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1644</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, I have to agree with Mike.  I really appreciate all your readers, and Mr. Key has a very interesting voice, but I do have a hard time listening to the stories he narrates.  

Great podcast, and great stories.  It's really nothing personal, just tough for me to focus with this reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, I have to agree with Mike.  I really appreciate all your readers, and Mr. Key has a very interesting voice, but I do have a hard time listening to the stories he narrates.  </p>
<p>Great podcast, and great stories.  It&#8217;s really nothing personal, just tough for me to focus with this reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1637</link>
		<dc:creator>Indigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really felt alot of sympathy for this guy. I mean he comes from a time of war where racism is a defence machanism. He learned to act a certain way because his guardians wanted him to be safe.  The man barely understood what was going on around him, I don't know how he was supposed to keep up with changing times. I have seen this behaviour condoned before but it raises the question; What do you do with these people? Especially if they hold any kind of power and even have done wonderfull things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really felt alot of sympathy for this guy. I mean he comes from a time of war where racism is a defence machanism. He learned to act a certain way because his guardians wanted him to be safe.  The man barely understood what was going on around him, I don&#8217;t know how he was supposed to keep up with changing times. I have seen this behaviour condoned before but it raises the question; What do you do with these people? Especially if they hold any kind of power and even have done wonderfull things.</p>
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		<title>By: Yet another Mike</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>Yet another Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please oh please no more Frank Key narrated stories.  I get that he's somewhat of a fan favorite for some people, but really his lack of any kind of enunciation and tongue-twisting over every other word makes it impossible to gain any kind of interest into the story.  The last two stories he's read, I really can't say if they're any good or not because 5-10 minutes in I just give up on listening to them.  I'm almost at the point where if I hear his voice narrating, I'm just not going to listen to it.  It may not be fair, but I listen to this podcast to relax and instead I find myself getting aggravated by listening to this guy, so please no more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please oh please no more Frank Key narrated stories.  I get that he&#8217;s somewhat of a fan favorite for some people, but really his lack of any kind of enunciation and tongue-twisting over every other word makes it impossible to gain any kind of interest into the story.  The last two stories he&#8217;s read, I really can&#8217;t say if they&#8217;re any good or not because 5-10 minutes in I just give up on listening to them.  I&#8217;m almost at the point where if I hear his voice narrating, I&#8217;m just not going to listen to it.  It may not be fair, but I listen to this podcast to relax and instead I find myself getting aggravated by listening to this guy, so please no more.</p>
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		<title>By: LittleLotus</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1631</link>
		<dc:creator>LittleLotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One big snore.  I really wanted to turn it off, but I was enjoying listening to Frank Key's fabulous voice.  Although I love this podcast and listen to it religiously, I found that this was the lowest of the low.  My biggest problem with it was why should I care?  What does this have to do with The Lord of the Rings?  Other than a racist, I didn't see much character development until the very end and even then it was the classic:  if you can't beat them, join them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One big snore.  I really wanted to turn it off, but I was enjoying listening to Frank Key&#8217;s fabulous voice.  Although I love this podcast and listen to it religiously, I found that this was the lowest of the low.  My biggest problem with it was why should I care?  What does this have to do with The Lord of the Rings?  Other than a racist, I didn&#8217;t see much character development until the very end and even then it was the classic:  if you can&#8217;t beat them, join them.</p>
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		<title>By: Hyperion</title>
		<link>http://podcastle.org/2008/11/04/pc032-senator-bilbo/#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>Hyperion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 11:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read every comment on every story presented at PodCastle, and sometimes I cringe at the some of the criticism, which appears reflexive, or else looking to take umbrage over imaginary fiefdoms. 

Sigh. 

I guess I join those ranks, for "Senator Bilbo" really rubbed me the wrong way.  It wasn't Frank Key's reading, dependably excellent as always, or even the story itself.  For what it was, Andy Duncan laid out the tale clearly with descriptive panache, creating memorable characters quickly, and making halfling bureaucracy not seem wonkish .  The tale was about as subtle as a third grade play, but I suppose if social commentary is the aim, "let that be your last battlefield." 

My problem is twofold: 

Mixing politics into any story, especially fantasy, is a tricky proposition.  If it's organic from the material, that's one thing, but an obvious pastiche can look tacky.  In particular, the subject of immigration and racial/national identity is at the very least challenging, and treating it with some Boolean-like "either/or" morality reduces both the story and the struggle. 

My bigger issue is with the milieu.  Certainly Fantasy is no sacred cow, and is as deserving of parody or satire as any genre.  Witness the witty and hilarious "Hallah Iron Thighs" of a few weeks ago.  However, in that story, the humor derives mostly from the personal struggles of an aging woman blended into the chain-mail babe setting.  Fun is poked, but at the tropes, archetypes and cliches of barbarian tales, not at anything specific. 

I think "Senator Bilbo" could have achieved its purpose with a recognizable but generic fantasy setting.  There was no need to swipe another's , and of all people, Mr. Tolkien.  Say what you want about him; modern fantasy, including this podcast, would not be here without his imagination and hard work. 

Tolkien fans have surely read the theories that LOTR is an allegory for WWII, and industrial gentrification of Tolkien's homeland.  You must also know how abhorrent the author found those ideas, and how adamant he was to the bitter end that Middle Earth was as wholly separate a place as he could make it. 

If Tolkien were alive today and read this story, and I think he would be mortified.  Now, I believe in artistic freedom, and certainly a cultural icon is fair game, but I just cannot help but wonder why this subject, and why this place.  It cheapens the "clever," and makes me sad to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read every comment on every story presented at PodCastle, and sometimes I cringe at the some of the criticism, which appears reflexive, or else looking to take umbrage over imaginary fiefdoms. </p>
<p>Sigh. </p>
<p>I guess I join those ranks, for &#8220;Senator Bilbo&#8221; really rubbed me the wrong way.  It wasn&#8217;t Frank Key&#8217;s reading, dependably excellent as always, or even the story itself.  For what it was, Andy Duncan laid out the tale clearly with descriptive panache, creating memorable characters quickly, and making halfling bureaucracy not seem wonkish .  The tale was about as subtle as a third grade play, but I suppose if social commentary is the aim, &#8220;let that be your last battlefield.&#8221; </p>
<p>My problem is twofold: </p>
<p>Mixing politics into any story, especially fantasy, is a tricky proposition.  If it&#8217;s organic from the material, that&#8217;s one thing, but an obvious pastiche can look tacky.  In particular, the subject of immigration and racial/national identity is at the very least challenging, and treating it with some Boolean-like &#8220;either/or&#8221; morality reduces both the story and the struggle. </p>
<p>My bigger issue is with the milieu.  Certainly Fantasy is no sacred cow, and is as deserving of parody or satire as any genre.  Witness the witty and hilarious &#8220;Hallah Iron Thighs&#8221; of a few weeks ago.  However, in that story, the humor derives mostly from the personal struggles of an aging woman blended into the chain-mail babe setting.  Fun is poked, but at the tropes, archetypes and cliches of barbarian tales, not at anything specific. </p>
<p>I think &#8220;Senator Bilbo&#8221; could have achieved its purpose with a recognizable but generic fantasy setting.  There was no need to swipe another&#8217;s , and of all people, Mr. Tolkien.  Say what you want about him; modern fantasy, including this podcast, would not be here without his imagination and hard work. </p>
<p>Tolkien fans have surely read the theories that LOTR is an allegory for WWII, and industrial gentrification of Tolkien&#8217;s homeland.  You must also know how abhorrent the author found those ideas, and how adamant he was to the bitter end that Middle Earth was as wholly separate a place as he could make it. </p>
<p>If Tolkien were alive today and read this story, and I think he would be mortified.  Now, I believe in artistic freedom, and certainly a cultural icon is fair game, but I just cannot help but wonder why this subject, and why this place.  It cheapens the &#8220;clever,&#8221; and makes me sad to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 07:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very appropriate story for the occasion. I found the Senators claim that it was the trolls whose brains had ossified especially funny, given his behavior. Keep it coming!</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>was there rampant speciasm in Bilbos world? Certainly there was constant splitting of orc heads and such but i have a feeling elves and dwarfs would have just as soon been slaughtering each other.. and humans... no qualms there. How about a story where Saruman attempts to bring the green revolution and advanced technology to the shire and is turned on by  short sighted and ungratefull halflings... or um.. one where bilbo, gandalph and the elves sit about 'the west' creaking around tugging up their shorts, complaining about the weather and their chilblains...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>was there rampant speciasm in Bilbos world? Certainly there was constant splitting of orc heads and such but i have a feeling elves and dwarfs would have just as soon been slaughtering each other.. and humans&#8230; no qualms there. How about a story where Saruman attempts to bring the green revolution and advanced technology to the shire and is turned on by  short sighted and ungratefull halflings&#8230; or um.. one where bilbo, gandalph and the elves sit about &#8216;the west&#8217; creaking around tugging up their shorts, complaining about the weather and their chilblains&#8230;</p>
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